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Mon, 10 May 2010 19:19:52 +0000

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Lucid ruminations « We'll see | Matt Zimmerman — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 09:23:22 +0000

[...] a comment » A few months ago, I wrote about changes in our development process for Ubuntu 10.04 LTS in order to meet our goals for this long-term release. So, how has it turned [...]

By: Matt Zimmerman

Matt Zimmerman — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:43:41 +0000

This won’t be a supported upgrade path, but you can try it if you’re comfortable resolving any problems which might arise. I know of no reason it shouldn’t work, but we can only test a limited number of upgrade paths, and this isn’t one of them.

You can always choose to install 10.04 over 9.04 while preserving your home directory. You’d need to reinstall any applications you added, and if you made manual customizations in /etc, you would need to redo those.

By: LCC

LCC — Wed, 30 Dec 2009 23:32:37 +0000

Agree with jenku. Would be happy to just upgrade to 10.04. I’ve been doing clean installs to avoid issues.

By: jenku

jenku — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:03:30 +0000

Will it be possible to directly upgrade from Jaunty to Lucid? I’m quite satisfied with 9.04 so I don’t see any need to install Karmic. After all it takes a few hours.

By: Zac

Zac — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 15:12:05 +0000

I second Dan L. above regarding having kernel updates for LTS releases. I assume it’s technically possible. I guess it’s making sure the updates are 100% tested and reliable, so having enough manpower is a problem. If this can be pulled off for LTS releases Ubuntu will be one step ahead of the rest. Oh, doesn’t Red Hat release kernel updates for their RHEL?

By: Matt Zimmerman

Matt Zimmerman — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 13:25:36 +0000

Regarding the availability of newer drivers, the linux-backports-modules packages will often provide the newer modules needed, compiled for older kernels.

Where a newer kernel is the only option, https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kernel-lucid-new-kernel-on-lts documents our current thinking on this.

Regarding PulseAudio, the audio stack is working very well for us in 9.10. If you haven’t tried that yet, please give it a shot. If you still have problems, try a daily snapshot of Lucid and report a bug.

By: Dan L.

Dan L. — Sat, 26 Dec 2009 11:50:36 +0000

Eventually what kills LTS releases for me is the unavailability of updated drivers since the release is frozen on a specific kernel version.

For example, I regularly have my laptop replaced at work with more recent models, something which is out of my control. I had been using 8.04 happily for almost a year when I had the hardware change forced on me, which in turn also forced an OS change since the old kernel in 9.04 wouldn’t recognize the new wireless adapter. I spent almost 2 weeks installing every release since the last LTS before deciding on Jaunty (Karmic being too bleeding edge for critical work).

It would be great if Lucid had kernel backports. I seem to remember a discussion among the developers along these lines.

Oh, and fix pulseaudio while you’re at it… It’s been the component that’s given me the most headaches at home. I’ve went through 3 different hardware configurations since ubuntu started using PA, and it’s never failed to give me crackly sound at apparently random intervals, filling up /var/log/messages with cryptic warnings and (in Karmic) freezing up X(!). There are dozens of bugs open for all these issues and it would be nice to have this component stabilized for the next LTS. Or, dare I say it, go back to ALSA which has rarely failed to output sound as it’s supposed to.

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By: Victor J Kinzer

Victor J Kinzer — Thu, 24 Dec 2009 15:54:58 +0000

Oh thank god. I have been hoping this general design philosophy would be applied to the LTS releases for a long time. I love Ubuntu. I have since I first moved from Xandros to Dapper. It is a great system, and has done more to beautify Linux and make it more user friendly than any other distro out there. Regressions constantly hold it back.

The only thing left that would make this dream like situation complete for me is if you keep your LTS release as front and center as your current bleeding edge release at all times. This LTS should have equal billing with 10.10, 11.04. etc. until the next LTS comes out, and have an explanation of what the differences are for users who are new to Linux and don’t know what they’re getting into. Add a support cycle that includes updates of major applications like OpenOffice and Firefox without updating any infrastructure for the life of the LTS release and you will have a truly solid product that is ready for pass consumption.