Comments on: Greg Kroah-Hartman’s Linux Ecosystem

By: Todos para uno y uno que se hace el sota « Keep Walking

Todos para uno y uno que se hace el sota « Keep Walking — Thu, 19 Mar 2009 00:35:58 +0000

[...] Quizás no venga al caso, pero Greg Kroah-Hartman es empleado de Novell; ojo al piojo. No voy a tirar al piso ahora lo que he recomendado como lectura, pero éste y otros datos (como por ejemplo, la relatividad de lo que se considera un ecosistema Linux) se explican un poco mejor en éste artículo de Efrain Valles y en una de sus fuentes, Matt Zimmerman (empleado de Ubuntu) y su artículo en respuesta a la charla de Greg. [...]

By: La contribución de Canonical a Linux « Zona Tux

La contribución de Canonical a Linux « Zona Tux — Wed, 03 Dec 2008 20:44:08 +0000

[...] contestaron posteriormente a la crítica de forma razonada: En la primera respuesta, se justifican las motivaciones de Canonical y se ponen en duda los números de la charla. En la segunda respuesta, se cuestiona la presunta [...]

By: Mis 10 centimos de BsF … / My 10 Cents of BsF… » Blog Archive » Ubuntu y el Ecosistema Linux: Resaltando verdades (y desenmascarando el FUD!!)

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:15:05 +0000

[...] sobre la participación de Greg en su plenaria. y aquí les dejo muchos de sus comentarios de su post original Quizás el nombre de la charla esta errado y veamos por que: Greg Considera que el [...]

By: Shuttleworth fala sobre Dell, as críticas de Greg KH e mais

Shuttleworth fala sobre Dell, as críticas de Greg KH e mais — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:33:19 +0000

[...] Linux) ao tamanho da contribuição da Canonical ao ecossistema Linux, sobre as quais já há uma série de outras respostas [...]

By: Mário da Silva

Mário da Silva — Wed, 22 Oct 2008 01:39:52 +0000

Does anyone still remember how was SUSE before being acquired by Novell? I still remember.

SUSE was bought but didn’t seemed to go nowhere for some time as if Novell didn’t knew very well what to do with it, and only then we saw a really OPEN SUSE (Yast) and a really OPEN Ximian Evolution. Fedora was almost dropped by Red Hat if someone still remembers the discussions at the time.

RedHat dropped the common user for the more profitable corporative ones and was so “closed” that CentOS appeared.

Before Ubuntu appears in the scene the easiest of the big ones (those that give professional support) for the end user was Mandrake/Mandriva and in no way the effort of having releases often were a motto for anyone around the big distros.

Sometimes I hear this discussions and it seems to me that everybody eats too much cheese.

By: XooX

XooX — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 19:33:48 +0000

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By: Ubuntu Podcast by the Ubuntu Georgia LoCo - Ubuntu Podcast Episode#8

Ubuntu Podcast by the Ubuntu Georgia LoCo - Ubuntu Podcast Episode#8 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:22:54 +0000

[...] http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/lpc_2008_keynote.html – Matt Zimmerman, CTO for Canonical, responds: http://mdzlog.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/greg-kh-linux-ecosystem/ – Points out Greg only considers kernel, X, and compiler contributions, not Gnome, KDE, or anything [...]

By: nokat

nokat — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 20:03:45 +0000

Thank u

By: Quo vadis Canonical (Ubuntu)? | Linux @ Home

Quo vadis Canonical (Ubuntu)? | Linux @ Home — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:15:30 +0000

[...] den Benutzer mittelfristig nichts Gutes bringen wird. Natürlich gab es kurz darauf entsprechende Gegenreaktionen von Ubuntu-Mitarbeitern. Die Diskussion geht mittlerweile auf LWN weiter, es gibt auch Artikel, [...]

By: Darryl R

Darryl R — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:25:13 +0000

Ubuntu’s focus is a well integrated desktop; Redhat’s and Debians are not. Off the top of my head, they’ve contributed bazaar and upstart, which reflect that focus. Its popularity ON THE DESKTOP is a reflection of that desktop focus…

AFAICT Canonical is also tiny compared to, say, Redhat and Suse.

The unpaid workers of Debian and Ubuntu are kind of irrelevant to the whole discussion. They are free to contribute to whatever they want to. Unpaid Debian developers who happen to alao contribute to GCC could just as easily change over to being unpaid ubuntu developers who also contribute to GCC. I don’t believe there is a corporate mandate from Canonical NOT to contribute upstream, and AFAIK there’s not a specific mandate for Debionites TO contribute upstream.

Honestly, if your focus is the desktop, then the kernel and gcc are basically good enough. Linux desktops are still a bunch of half finished crap.